First Thoughts: Where's the buzz?

Where's the buzz surrounding the possible 2012 Republicans?... Politico says Hillaryland has its eyes on 2016, not 2012… Obama speaks at rally for O'Malley at 3:15 pm ET… While we all focus on the DE and AK Senate races, don't forget about CO, IL, PA, WV, and WI… GOP outside money groups have an 8-to-1 spending advantage… "Hicky, blue-collar look"?... About last night's Crist-Meek-Rubio debate… Profiling VA-2… And Blumenthal and McMahon square off in another debate.


*** Where's the buzz? President Obama today hits another rally (for Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley), after recently drawing 26,000 in Wisconsin. But looking ahead to 2012, we've heard some Republicans ask: If the GOP's '12 nominee was out there, wouldn't that person already have a considerable following? After all, conservatives and Republicans right now are displaying unprecedented enthusiasm, energy, and engagement about the coming midterm elections. That's largely why Republicans are poised to make big gains next month. But given this GOP excitement, it's striking that -- outside of Sarah Palin (and she could be more exciting to the media than to the base) -- none of it has rubbed off the potential '12 Republicans.

*** Comparing '06 with now: In 2006, due to his rock-star status campaigning for other Democrats, political observers could already sense that Obama would be a BIG deal if he ran for president. Ditto Hillary Clinton, whose march to Senate re-election was attracting plenty of buzz. Right now, the only Republican outside of Palin who's even approaching the same buzz that Obama and Clinton received in '06 is someone who has said he won't run: New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie. There are A LOT of 2012 GOPers traveling the country (Romney, Pawlenty, Huckabee, Santorum, etc), and none is even close to getting real buzz in the base of the party right now.

*** Speaking of buzz about 2012 (and also 2016): Thanks to Drudge and cable TV's need to feed the beast, we're not sure the Hillary-Biden "Trading Places" story is really going to go away, despite strong denials by the White House and Clinton. Indeed, Politico yesterday noted that Hillaryland's true target isn't VP in 2012 but rather president in 2016. "Not happening," one of her 2008 campaign's topmost figures said about Clinton becoming VP in '12. "Stay tuned for 2016." More: "Many in Clinton's broader circle assume that she is positioning herself with an eye toward that 2016 bid – not that they claim to have first-hand knowledge of it. 'Once you run for president you always want to be president," James Carville … told POLITICO when he was asked about Hillary Clinton's prospects. "My assumption is that once you've run you're going to run again." Of course, the whole story was written on the premise of making an assumption about her ambition. Those closest to Hillary acknowledge folks AROUND Clinton are more interested in seeing her run again than the prospective candidate herself. In fact, she's actually starting to get into a groove in her current job and starting to enjoy more this year than she did last year.

*** How quickly we forget 1994: The Politico article also made this point: "The renewed buzz around Clinton's prospects, though, has been driven by the political weaknesses of Obama and Biden. Fanned by a media eager for conflict and fascinated by all things Clinton, the spark for the notion of Clinton's return to politics comes from her original argument against Obama. Clinton made the case in the Democratic primaries that Obama would be unable to win among working-class white Democratic voters. The Democrats head into the midterms profoundly weak among some of those same white voters - though Obama's biggest problem remains with Republicans, and pollsters argue that their real problem is a lackluster Democratic base." Yet here's our question: If Bill Clinton couldn't avoid what happened in '94, then do we think Hillary as president would be any stronger than Obama is right now, especially with unemployment at 10%? Classic grass-is-always-greener-on-the-other-side analysis.

*** Obama's day: As mentioned above, President Obama delivers remarks at 3:15 pm ET at a rally for Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley at Bowie State University, a historically black college. Then, in the early evening, he flies to Chicago to speak at a fundraiser for Alexi Giannoulias at 7:00 pm ET.

*** Don't you … forget about me: While the political and news world fixates on the Senate contests in Delaware (because of Christine O'Donnell) and Alaska (because of Todd Palin's nasty-gram email to Joe Miller), we want to remind folks that there are MUCH more competitive and consequential Senate races out there. Some examples: Colorado, Illinois, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and Wisconsin. In fact, these are, perhaps, the five CLOSEST Senate races in the country, and they rank near the bottom in coverage. Hmmm

*** GOP outside group's 8-to-1 spending advantage: On Tuesday, we wrote about how GOP-leaning outside groups were blowing away Dem outside groups in TV ad spending. Here are some fresh numbers a source sent us: From August until now, GOP groups have spent nearly $41 million in key Senate seats, including $8.8 million by American Crossroads and $14 million by Crossroads GPS. By comparison, Dem groups have spent just $5.5 million in these states. That's an 8-to-1 advantage for the GOP. Wow…

*** The 'hicky' blue-collar look? Remember that recent tough TV ad the National Republican Senatorial Committee is running against Joe Manchin in West Virginia? The ad features three men -- wearing flannel and baseball caps -- having a conversation about how "Obama's messin' things up" and how Manchin "does whatever Obama wants." Well, it turns out those weren't West Virginians. Rather, they were actors shooting the ad from Philadelphia, and they weren't just actors, Politico reports. "'We are going for a "Hicky" Blue Collar look,' read the casting call for the ad, being aired by the National Republican Senatorial Committee. 'These characters are from West Virginia so think coal miner/trucker looks.'" All of a sudden, Manchin now has three things to hit GOP opponent John Raese with: 1) that Raese's wife is a resident of another state; 2) Raese's position on the minimum wage; and 3) this casting call that doesn't necessarily portray West Virginia in a positive light.

*** About last night: Here's the Miami Herald's take on last night's Crist-Meek-Rubio debate in Florida: "Marco Rubio got the front-runner treatment in a combative U.S. Senate debate Wednesday night, with both his rivals attacking him as a right-wing extremist out of step with Florida voters." Here's the St. Pete Times: "The surprise of the night was Meek, the Democrat trailing in the polls, money and enthusiasm. Meek was strong throughout the hour, landing some of the best lines." Here's ABC: "[I]n the end, neither Gov. Charlie Crist (I) nor Rep. Kendrick Meek (D) was able to knock frontrunner Marco Rubio (R) off his game." And here is the take from NBC's Adam Verdugo, who was there: It was clear that both Crist and Meek had Rubio in their sights. Rubio is the clear frontrunner in the polls and just before the debate, Rubio's campaign announced a record haul of $5 million in the last quarter, the largest from a Senate candidate this quarter.

*** 75 House races to watch: VA-2: The Democratic nominee is first-term incumbent Glenn Nye, and his GOP opponent is businessman Scott Rigell. In 2008, Obama won 51% in this district -- representing Virginia Beach -- while Bush won 58% in '04. As of June 30, Nye had nearly $1.3 million in the bank, versus Rigell's $227,000. Nye voted against the stimulus, cap-and-trade, and health care. Cook rates the contest as Toss Up, while Rothenberg has it Lean Republican.

*** More midterm news: In Colorado, Campaign Money Watch, a nonpartisan campaign finance reform watchdog group, is up with a big ad buy against Ken Buck… In Connecticut, Dick Blumenthal and Linda McMahon square off in another debate today.

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Vote for anybody but a LIB !

  • 9 votes
Reply#26 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:06 AM EDT

Glenn Beck would work!

  • 2 votes
Reply#27 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:07 AM EDT

RJ-381962

Glenn Beck would work!

Cut through the red tape there is not a moment to lose enforcements; as one can clearly see .

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3432/3994037490_f22e7a478a_o.jpg

The GOTP cash registers goes chi ching.

Give Colbert’s story a bump too.

  • 1 vote
#27.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:18 PM EDT
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Nooooo!! We're gorged with this wherever we go come election year, so why bother worrying about it 2 years before we have to make a decision!?

This is why I hate the media nowadays. We need to come up for air, you know.

    Reply#28 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:10 AM EDT

    Remember the campaign ad with the LEGO figures printing money until paper is worth more than money. Ron Paul, that's the only Republican I would vote for...

      Reply#29 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:10 AM EDT

      When do the September employment numbers come out...

      • 1 vote
      Reply#30 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:12 AM EDT

       To vote

      • 1 vote
      Reply#31 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:15 AM EDT

      Ron Paul will prevail in 2012. You heard it here first. 

        Reply#32 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:22 AM EDT

        It's pretty easy to understand why there is no "buzz" for 2012 repugnant candidates. Conservatives are not exciting people, they are boreing and dull, so don't expect to find any excitement from them. There is none to be found.

        • 6 votes
        Reply#33 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:24 AM EDT

        Pat, Boston, MA
        Newt Gingrich has a new strategy to attack Democratic candidates leading up to the elections: to brand them as the "party of food stamps." In a speech in Minnesota yesterday, he said: "Most Americans would like to get a paycheck. Most Americans would not like to be forced to have food stamps handed out by liberal Democrats.


        Newt, the Grinch who stole Congress in 1994 with his defaulted "Contract on America is just like you said Pat, a liar. He has lied "Then and Now".


        What a crappy reason to show his disdain for less fortunate people. Oh, that's right! They are just less fortunate people can not give millions to the republicans, the TB nut wing party, and foreign owned conglomerates.



        Sorry, Newt's supply side policies do not create jobs. What if on their way to achieving the dream a college student, or small business person who is going through a bumpy time goes broke and hungry and might need some food stamps to get by? What then does Newt suggest; food stamps instead of jobs; I wonder?


        Their bodies should be made out of food stamps. That way, it wouldn't take worms very long to get to their corporate shrilling a$$es in this time of the food chain and economy being so depived.


        Republicans hate poor people.

        • 9 votes
        Reply#34 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:25 AM EDT

        "Newt, the Grinch who stole Congress in 1994..."

        The Clinton administration and the majority of the American people tend to disagree Beverly.

        When Pelosi says that you get "more bang for the buck" when people use food stamps and unemployment insurance money you know you with this airhead you are scraping the bottom the barrel as far as economic intelligence is concerned.

        "Republicans hate poor people."

        No conservatives want peole to have a job. Liberals what people to be dependent on the government.

        "Sorry, Newt's supply side policies do not create jobs"

        Far better than Obama's BS Keynesian economic policies.

        • 3 votes
        #34.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:34 AM EDT
        osamaobamaExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        "Republicans hate poor people."
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        Actually Republicans hate Socialists like you, Bev. Is Eric Holder planning on breaking up his blogging group in the DOJ after you Dems receive your azz-kicking in November ? Probably not...there arte still more lies to tell, huh, Comrade ?

        • 2 votes
        #34.2 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:57 AM EDT

        And how soon the republicans forget that we have the unemployment problem due mainly to their mismanagement of this country, the obstructionism of the republicans to block every bill that promotes the creation of jobs. They even voted to keep farming jobs to countries overseas at the expense of the American Working class.

        We do not have job growth because the republicans do not want it, they are looking at this obstructionism to creating jobs as a way to win elections.

        • 6 votes
        #34.3 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 11:15 AM EDT
        osamaobamaExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        You're a sick puppy, Shirley. No wonder the navy retired you...

          #34.4 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 11:18 AM EDT

          "....the obstructionism of the republicans to block every bill that promotes the creation of jobs."

          And those bills which would actually work to help create jobs are??

          • 1 vote
          #34.5 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 11:19 AM EDT

          You're a sick puppy, Shirley. No wonder the navy retired you...

          The slimy Libs that we miss in November will be sent packing in 2012.... take it to the bank.

          ______________________________________________________

          Guess that Tyler guy is off today.

          • 7 votes
          #34.6 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 11:29 AM EDT

          I was thinking the same thing YellowDog!

          What FINE representation the right as brought to the board today!

          If this is the BEST the Repubican party has to offer we're all in DEEP sh!t!

          Makes me want to go take a shower to get rid of the stench coming from them!

          • 4 votes
          #34.7 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 11:35 AM EDT

          One more thing...

          Am I the only one who's noticed the silence from our defenders on FR 'civil discourse'?

          You know the ones... NJNB... dangerfield, dirt and so on... about what's being passed as polite this morning from the best & brightest representing the right winging tea baggers?

          BTW... I would highly recommend not venturing any further than this page as it rapidly deteriorate into a hate filled cess pool!

          • 5 votes
          #34.8 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 11:54 AM EDT

          Feisty and others,

          I agree, this board has suddenly gotten full of nutjobs. Not one idea among them and you are right, it gets worst as you progress down the line.

          Name calling does nothing for me except point out how impotent they really are.

          It is all on the wheel and they will get what they deserve later in life. I think I will leave the sewer rats to play in their own filth today.

          • 2 votes
          #34.9 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 12:44 PM EDT

          "Name calling does nothing for me except point out how impotent they really are. "

          in a post that contains "nutjobs" and "sewer rats"

          I would agree, Retired, that "Name calling does nothing for me except point out how impotent they really are. "

          • 1 vote
          #34.10 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:00 PM EDT

          My calls for Civil discourse (and the need for moderation) were derided, by Feisty in particular and was generally attacked by the "community"...

          It sure wasn't Feisty who championed civil discourse, so am I the ONLY one wondering why she's bringing it up in the context of others?

          The civil folk here are civil, and the nasty ones only see the nastiness in others, or the responsibility, as the case may be.

          I mean, who BRAGS about being collapsed and then emails to get their post restored?...lol

          • 2 votes
          #34.11 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:27 PM EDT
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          Republicans wont have anybody come 2012. Newt=no, Palin=please, Pawlenty=never in his wildest dreams could he get enough money to run, Romney=probly their best bet but a long shot. Pence=he's a nobody. Obama will not have a problem winning again.

          • 5 votes
          Reply#35 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:25 AM EDT

          http://hotair.com/archives/2010/08/13/cnn-obama-losing-to-generic-republican-challenger-4550/

          Obama can't even beat an unnamed Republican right now.

          • 4 votes
          #35.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:42 AM EDT

          Mark my words. He WILL win. No doubt in my mind. Repubs have nobody. NOBODY.

          • 7 votes
          #35.2 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:50 AM EDT

          Republicans don't need a candidate right now....there will be a landslide victory by ANNO (Anyone Not Named Obama)...Americans have now had a little sample of Communism and don't want any more.

          I suspect it will be Cristy from New Jersy or Jim Demint from South Carolina but it doesn't really matter... it will be many, many years before you see another Democrat president...

          • 1 vote
          #35.3 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:52 AM EDT

          Bill, mark my words Obama will go down in 2012 as bad a president as Jimmy Carter was...if not worse.

          • 4 votes
          #35.4 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:55 AM EDT

          You both are very wrong. Come on Carter was 30 years ago, get in the present. And just keep watching your precious Fox news for all of your lier, nonsense news. Christy or Demint dont have a snowballs chance in hell.

          • 5 votes
          #35.5 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 11:02 AM EDT

          "Come on Carter was 30 years ago..."

          LOL! But Obama has EXACTLY the same ideology as Carter. Remember your history Bill.

          "Christy or Demint dont have a snowballs chance in hell."

          Polls show even an UNNAMED Republican would beat Obama today.

            #35.6 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 11:22 AM EDT

            Tracy, you watch WAY to much Fox news. No Republican will beat Obama in 2012. Later Loser.

            • 3 votes
            #35.7 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:36 PM EDT

            hillary will oppose Obama in 2012.

              #35.8 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:46 PM EDT
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              The American people don't need a buzz for a GOP candidate. First, Republicans take back the House and Senate, repeal Obama's blunderous agenda then focus on 2012.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#36 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:33 AM EDT

              Let me see if I have this straight. Laws are created by Congress and only signed by the president. THe president always deals with his party in creating an agenda and a focus about where the country should be pointed. If Im not mistaken, dems have had both the house and the senate for several years so the law creation came from them. the dems were in all the leadership positions (i.e Dodd and our buddy Barney) 'watching' out for all of us. And this was a republican failure (especially with the lets get everybody a house because Fannie and Freddie will pay for it)

              • 3 votes
              Reply#37 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:35 AM EDT

              Give me Chuck Hagel, former Senator from Nebraska. He is a moderate, Vietnam vet, extremely ethical and moral guy...has international business experience. He could win it for the GOP....they need to stop running extremist type candidates and go back to moderates whom everyone can love!

                Reply#38 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:38 AM EDT

                Hagel is a RINO...he may actually be the definition of a RINO...that puts him in the same class as the corrupt and incompetent Democrats.

                • 1 vote
                #38.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:48 AM EDT
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                Still waiting: No Jo, Joe in Albany, what say you?

                • 2 votes
                Reply#39 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:40 AM EDT

                What to watch;

                Who is working to lower expectations? Who is reluctant to debate? Those two indicators are tried and true measures of who the candidates think is winning in the final days.

                The "front-runner" is running against expectations of victory, so tries to lower them else the victory be "tainted" by a smaller than predicted margin of victory.

                The front-runner is loath to debate as a live and unscripted venue offers the greatest possibility for a mistake.

                • 2 votes
                Reply#40 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:40 AM EDT

                The Republicans have no leadership and no guts. None of the the possible candidates will step up now until they see how the Tea Party revolution fares in the mid terms. If the TP fails they will disavow any association with it. If it succeeds they will say it was because of their backing. The Republicans cannot find any Statesman amongst them because of their addiction to regressive social issues, these issues are contrary to the real essence of the conservative principles of individual freedom and personal responsibility. Additionally, they are confused by the utter failure of their economic policies. Republicans are predominately black and white thinkers, they believe in absolutes, and when an absolute fails and fails big time, they become disoriented and confused. My guess is that it will take them four or five years to recover from their current state and come up with a new and more refined policy.

                • 4 votes
                Reply#41 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:40 AM EDT
                osamaobamaExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                You're whistling past the graveyard, Gomer. Your party is about to be body slammed and it's not going to be pretty. The slimy Libs that we miss in November will be sent packing in 2012.... take it to the bank.

                • 4 votes
                #41.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:45 AM EDT

                The Republicans have no leadership and no guts.

                That exact same thing was said when Jimmy Carter was president. But as it turned out, whoever the Republican nominee was would have beaten the peanut man. We have the same anti-Democrat sentiment today among the independents who voted for Obama.

                • 2 votes
                #41.2 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:45 AM EDT

                The Democrats don't have to make a lot of noise and they certainly don't have to promote lunatic candidates like O' Donnell, Palin, and Angle to get free news time, all they have to do is vote! I am person who appreciates a spirited debate between intelligent representatives of the two parties with opposing views on the issues, but I don't see that happening, many of the Tea Party candidates won't even allow themselves to be interviewed one on one, ever wonder why? I am begining to think maybe the Republicans really do not have a sensible spokesperson to put forward. O'connell and Boehner have twisted the truth so many times they have lost all credibility, and their leadership seems to be dissolving on camera!

                • 1 vote
                #41.3 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:10 PM EDT
                Reply

                Quick, name a Republican with 2102 buzz.

                Uh, uh, anyone but Obama?

                • 3 votes
                Reply#42 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:42 AM EDT
                osamaobamaExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                US Navy Disabled Veteran - Retired

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                More ignorance from the Communists...I suspect that you are actually a woman based upon your posts but I could be wrong...Lord knows in this day and age there are some really feminine guys out there...but really, passing yourself off as "retired navy" ???? Were you a casualty of "don't ask, don't tell" ?

                  Reply#43 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:43 AM EDT

                  Osamaobama:

                  Your lack of intelligence is showing. Calling me names does nothing but expose you for what you really are. You must be one very unhappy individual if that is all you got.

                  I would pity you but you are not even worth that, you are just irrelevant period.

                  Bye

                  • 4 votes
                  #43.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 11:23 AM EDT
                  osamaobamaExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                  You and your little Commie clique are fooling nobody, Shirley. Your party of corruption will be body slammed on Nov 2nd and you'll have to think of more lies to write. You and your little band of Commies are disgusting...a Liberal male is like a castrated hog...

                  • 2 votes
                  #43.2 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 11:30 AM EDT

                  US Navy - Yeah I just put an ignore on that guy for crossing the line serveral times today.

                  As I said earlier, our friend Tyler must be off today. Sure are a lot of personal attacks today.

                  • 2 votes
                  #43.3 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 11:35 AM EDT

                  We have a VOTE make it count!

                  I DID... ;0)

                    #43.4 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 11:37 AM EDT

                    Osamaobama, please don't attack US NavyDisabled Vets service to this country disagreeing with his/her politics is fine but the fact that he/she served the country is to be commended. W.Lee AE2 USN 72-76

                    • 1 vote
                    #43.5 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 11:44 AM EDT

                    wlee and USNAVY Retired - osama cannot help himself. He pops on here and spews a lot of hatred and anger but when it is all said and done, nobody cares WHAT he says.

                    I am OK with having a differing point of view; I am ok with having a spirited debate; I am ok with us agreeing to disagree but this 'attack dog' style that we so serves no purpose otherthan to take up space.

                    Wlee and USNAVY Retired, I commend both of you for your service to this country. I bet that you didn't know you were defending trolls like the ones who come on here spewing their hatred when you were active.

                    People like osama reallyshould be ashamed of themselves attacking veterans like that.

                    • 1 vote
                    #43.6 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 11:58 AM EDT
                    Reply

                    Quick... name a dumocrat... Obama? Yeah, right

                      Reply#44 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:45 AM EDT

                      This data is a bit old and will be updated. It shows how little the "little people" have in this country and their share is dwindling.

                      The distribution of the wealth of the United States in 2006 can be explained with this example:

                      Total wealth - $100.00
                      Total population - 100 individuals
                      50 individuals in the lowest group would each have $0.05 (total $2.50)
                      The next group of 40 individuals would each have $0.70 (total $26.00)
                      The next group of 9 individuals would each have $4.00 (total 36.00)
                      The richest individual would have a total of $33.40.
                      My source is the Survey of Consumer Finance by the Federal Reserve.

                      For the year 2007 the net worth, by percentile of the distribution of net worth is as follows:
                      The 0 to 90 percentile group was 28.5%
                      The 90 to 100 percentile group was 71.5%.
                      For the year 2007 the net worth, by percentile of the distribution of income is as follows:
                      The 0 to 90 percentile group was 40.6%
                      The 90 to 100 percentile group was 59.4%.
                      My source is "Ponds and Streams; Wealth and Income in the U.S., 1989 to 2007 by Arthur B. Kennickell of the Federal Reserve Board.

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#45 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:46 AM EDT

                      Princess Sarah fans must be aghast: " whadda mean she ain't the onfire front runner?! 22% favorable rating for her, that's why. Thank you Tina Fey!

                      • 5 votes
                      Reply#46 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:46 AM EDT

                      I think you have a crush David, how much was that Sarah poster?

                      • 2 votes
                      #46.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 11:46 AM EDT
                      Reply
                      David-1023706Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                      Ding Dong the Wicked Witch of Wasilla is dead

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#47 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:49 AM EDT
                      osamaobamaExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                      David, I think you Democrat males are just pissed off because Sara's dresses are nicer than yours...All of you effete Lib men seem to love talking about her...don't get your panties in a wad...

                      • 3 votes
                      #47.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 11:02 AM EDT

                      Osamaobama:

                      Enough is enough, you are acting like a jerk now. If you have an idea post it. If you are just here to make stupid hateful bigoted remarks, then I suggest you go crawl back under your slimy little rock.

                      • 4 votes
                      #47.2 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 11:29 AM EDT

                      Gee, sweetie, sorry...Didn't mean to assault you sensitive little feelings. Take out your frustration by arranging a few flowers or giving yourself a perm...

                      • 1 vote
                      #47.3 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 11:33 AM EDT

                      It is interesting this osamaobama really has nothing to say of any value. He must feel very uncomfortable that there are those of us who are serious about supporting our country and our President as he makes difficult decisions. What you do in a case like this is STTS!

                      • 1 vote
                      #47.4 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 12:00 PM EDT

                      Gee, sweetie, sorry...Didn't mean to assault you sensitive little feelings. Take out your frustration by arranging a few flowers or giving yourself a perm...

                      US NAVY Retired - this is what passes as 'witty repartee' for osama. Ignore him. I think everyone else is. There is no probative value to any of his posts.

                        #47.5 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 12:03 PM EDT
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                        I find it fascinating that people loath big business so much. Where are most of you getting your paycheck from? Small business? Self employed? Government? I just ask this as big business creates thousands of jobs, supports hundreds of thousands of related families and supports a large number of small business as suppliers, service providers etc. I've watched a hardcore democratic friend of mine start his business. 5 years ago he was a social changer wanting equal distribution of money, healthcare and all other social services liberals desire. Funny part of that he literally hated big business. Funny turn of events now that it is 5 years later - he has several large contracts with big business that have allowed him to:

                        1. Move into a new location - multiple construction jobs were created by this action

                        2. Hire 4 new employees - less unemployment now

                        3. Buy new equipment - more manufacturing jobs were put to use

                        4. Get a company vehicle fleet - money back to more manufacturing

                        So, now that he 'understands' business and how it all works and that companies are more involved than he ever realized he's OK with big business and as a business owner who works his rear end off he says of the big payouts and stock options - "those guys are working harder than anyone would ever imagine and taking chances on all of it - it's a classic risk reward that most people aren't willing to take." This coming from a conversation we had about a week ago. I almost feel on the floor - I told him he had come over to my "evil conservative" side of the world view - his response? "If people actually understood what goes into keeping our economy going they wouldn't be so quick to rip apart business and how it relates to the economy - people need incentive to keep progressing."

                        So my point, I seem to hear a lot of jealous folks out there - instead of being mad at the big money bonus dollars and the stock options - go to work and get yourself promoted and go do it yourself - after all it must be easy right?

                        • 4 votes
                        Reply#48 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:49 AM EDT

                        The teaparty has so flooded the GOP ranks with sub-par kooks, that there are no serious 2012 Right candidates currently .

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#49 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:49 AM EDT

                        Actually the demographis of the Tea Party show them to be better educated and richer than the general population. And who Republicans choose to be the next president won't matter...the next president will be the Republican nominee...period.

                        • 4 votes
                        #49.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 11:05 AM EDT

                        osama, Can you hear that... Yes I think I hear Steven Tyler... Dream On. Dream On. Dream On! aaahh...

                          #49.2 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:08 PM EDT
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                          How come the teabaggers and GOP candidates aren't utilizing Beevis and Butthead (aka Bush and Cheney) to stump for them and help get out the vote?

                          Could it be that they don't want to be associated w/ the previous administration's policies? BUT THEN WHY ARE THEY CAMPAIGNING ON THEM AGAIN!!??

                          Hey people, DON'T VOTE REPUBLICAN - IT'S JUST MORE OF THE SAME BS WRAPPED IN A NEW TEABAG!

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                          Reply#50 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:49 AM EDT
                          osamaobamaExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                          Gomer,

                          After you get body slammed by the Tea Party on Nov 2nd please come back with your ignorance and give us an update...

                          • 3 votes
                          #50.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 11:06 AM EDT
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